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My final thoughts on all of my fan fictions will go here. Most of these sections will not be completed until all of my stories have been anthologized.

Writing ProcessEdit

Development of One-shot CollectionsEdit

So when I first began writing stories on this site, one-shots never crossed my mind. I was writing about The Forgotten, and a bit later, In Requiem, and the thought was always that I wanted to develop these vast, expansive journey stories. Two major turning points occurred soon after I came to this wiki: the first was me writing In Requiem - while that story was of course multi-chaptered, my realization that I could focus on the emotional journey of Kid Buu, as well as his physical one, made me look at fanon with a new perspective, and gave me the building blocks, mentally and stylistically, to later pursue one-shot collections; the development of Dragon Ball Legacies also worked towards this goal, for my first three completed stories on this site were essentially chapters of Legacies. Legacies was a precursor to one-shot collections, and was technically one itself. I didn't see it as one, and it was more of a community project as well. But the idea that each "chapter" would be about a different person, a different story, was an organic idea that evolved simply as a way for multiple users to collaborate. That project eventually failed, but I did write three "one-shots" for it, which began to whet my appetite for shorter stories. Again, I should mention that before I joined this wiki, I had no concept of "one-shots" or desire to write them. It was through my joining and the process of writing IR and Legacies that got me on this path. Interestingly enough, I think that TF had very little to do with this development.

So after Legacies crashed and burned, I started to write the early stories in The Brady Patrick Collection, which I will talk about below. When I wrote the first two (Sixth and Slaved), I was not expecting them to be a part of a larger collection. They were, in essence, one-shots. And later than that, in 2011, I joined ExtremeSSJ4's collaborative story project, Dragon Ball What If.... This was much like Legacies, and it crashed and burned worse than my story collection. My stories in that collection were joke stories, mainly because I thought ExtremeSSJ4 was a terrible writer (something which, when looking back at it now, I know I was not wrong about) and his collaboration concept was equally terrible. The only good idea I got from his story collection, Bitterly Bothered Brother, I did not associate with ExtremeSSJ4, and instead made into its own standalone multi-chapter story.

After those, I wrote yet another one-shot, Derelict. This, along with Scourge, is a rare one-shot that is not part of a collection or larger story of some kind. This was mostly because I submitted it to a contest, and I didn't really have a concept of one-shot collections in 2011. Still, I am quite proud of that story, and it was a big indicator as to how my one-shots were developing. Because I began to focus on emotional, quiet, smaller stories about lesser-known characters (though not always), that idea lent itself to the concept of a one-shot collection. It should come as no surprise then that soon after, in 2012, I developed my first such collection, The Brady Patrick Collection; that collection was not finished until 2013, however.

And from there, as you will learn in the below sections, the one-shot collections, were born. Most of my one-shots from that point on were in specific one-shot collections (only Derelict and Scourge, to this day, remain true standalones). I will be mostly talking about Scourge in the "Things Were Better Then" section below, for at one time it was going to be a "bonus track" release for that album, but when I released it, I decided against doing that. But it should be known that like Derelict, that is a true standalone - a rarity for me. I wrote that as a standalone, knowing full well that I was trying to keep all of my one-shots in collections by that point (which is not what happened with Derelict - I didn't have any ideas about one-shot collections when I wrote that one); the reasons for this will be detailed below. Scourge's entire existence is influenced by my idea that all of my one-shots should be grouped together into collections, an idea that became reality in 2012, roughly two years after I joined this site (and it remained my philosophy for one-shots for the entire time I was on this wiki thereafter).

If one looks at all of my one-shot collections in sequential order, I think they will notice two things: most obviously, the design on the pages became more stylized and minimalistic with each successive one-shot collection. I began to treat these collections as highly expressive and thematic vehicles, similar to musical albums. Each one became thematically driven, and certain aesthetics were chosen for each collection to make them unique. I certainly see them as similar to album releases by musicians; this is basically how a writer like myself would release something like that. The second way in which my one-shot collections have grown is that, in my opinion, the writing has gotten tighter, more interesting, and cleaner. I think one could easily track my growth as a writer just by reading my one-shot collections in order.

I will be providing specific commentary on each of my one-shot collections below:

Dragon Ball: Legacies (December 26, 2010 - February 1, 2011)Edit

Being the first collection, it should come as no surprise that Legacies is the roughest of my one-shot series. As I have mentioned above, this isn't really a one-shot collection per se, as several of the stories span multiple chapters (including one of my own). Still, there were enough actual one-shots in it that I decided to include it here. I think my weakest stories on the entire site are in this collection. Were It So Easy (Legacies Episode) and Ground Up (Legacies Episode) are two that I don't like much at all, although So Lonely At The Top (Legacies Episode) is one that I do. The latter is a precursor to how my one-shots would develop, with its emotional focus, complex and subtle plot, and use of a relatively minor character as a protagonist. Other than that, there isn't much to say here. The prose is pretty bad in these stories, for I hadn't yet really done much with In Requiem - once I began working on IR, my prose began to develop and get way better. I am glad that Legacies collapsed under its own weight relatively early on. I think things would have gone worse for me had I written more stories in this collection. Sure, my writing could have developed faster, but I don't think so.

What ultimately came of Legacies was 12 stories (a much smaller group of stories than the original concept), which is roughly a one-shot collection sized story. Several of the stories weren't fully completed, though. I do think Legacies serves to show as a good early glimpse into everyone's abilities. I don't think any of the stories aside from So Lonely At The Top are any good, but Destructivedisk's writing abilities can still be seen in the two one-shots he wrote for the collection, whereas for pretty much every other user, their lack of writing ability is starkly clear at this point. Basically, I think the potential in various users can be seen in how their work developed in this collection. Perhaps Princeofallsalads also showed some promise with his story.

The Brady Patrick Collection (March 29, 2011 - June 24, 2013)Edit

Dragon Ball What If... (April 17, 2011 - April 28, 2011)Edit

I joined Dragon Ball What If... because it was popular, and there was pressure for me to join it. I didn't like the idea of it, didn't like ExtremeSSJ4, and most of his writers were terrible. As can be expected, all of the stories in it were garbage (it should also be mentioned that months/years after DBWI failed and interest in it was lost, ExtremeSSJ4 returned and deleted most of the stories from the collection, leaving only a few on the page - still, the ones I wrote (and many that others wrote) were a part of this collection at one time or another, and I still consider them to be members of DBWI). By the time I joined this collection, I already saw the parallels between it and Legacies. I knew it would suffer a similar fate.

So, I wrote two stories for this collection: A Mother's Love (Dragon Ball What If...) and Womanhood (Dragon Ball What If...). As with Legacies, I also developed another story, Bitterly Bothered Brother, which was based on this series, but was not associated with it, because I wanted BBB to be its own multi-chapter thing. I don't particularly like either story, though at one time, Destructivedisk gave an absurdly over-the-top positive review for A Mother's Love that still makes me laugh to this day. No, A Mother's Love is not one of my best stories. Womanhood is more akin to my later drunken stories (which one of my last one-shot collections was comprised of), though it was more silly and naive in its approach.

I experimented with form in this collection, mainly because I didn't want to write a serious story. Womanhood is a comedy story that is a pure concept piece. A Mother's Love is also a concept piece, which, to this day, is still a unique story on the entire site. A Mother's Love isn't really a comedy, but it's not a serious story either - it's not one that could possibly be canon to my universe. The big take away from this collection is that I was starting to mess around with form, trying to find unique and compelling stories to tell that were unlike anything else on the site, both in appearance and in meaning. Such ideas would carry over to later one-shot collections of mine, most notably "Things Were Better Then" and "The Heels of the Unknown".

The Black and White Collection (April 6, 2014 - July 25, 2014)Edit

Things Were Better Then (February 22, 2015 - June 1, 2015)Edit

Baby You're a Rich Man (June 27, 2015 - February 28, 2017)Edit

The Heels of the Unknown (April 10, 2016 - June 19, 2016)Edit

A Short-Lived Dream (October 9, 2016 - February 26, 2017)Edit

Ikigai (December 22, 2016 - June 11, 2017)Edit

Starchasers: Origins (November 1, 2017 - December 20, 2018)Edit

Vöntun (February 13, 2018 - March 25, 2018)Edit

A Trifling Matter (July 2, 2018 - October 24, 2018)Edit

Ka Mua (February 4, 2019 - February 27, 2019)Edit

I Wouldn't Want to Be a Fish Right Now (November 15, 2019 - present)Edit

InfluencesEdit

"Notice [in Things Fall Apart] for example how Achebe edges in the observation "He had no patience with unsuccessful men" in a most unobtrusive way, as if it does not matter at all, while in fact it is one of the key statements about Okonkwo's character. A less competent writer would spend many more words trying to make the same point and make it stand out. Achebe's absolute economy of words used with great skill accounts to an unusually high degree for the impression of remarkable concentration and power which one gets from reading Things Fall Apart."
— Emmanuel Obiechina


Story Completion by YearEdit

106 one-shots completed, 30 multi-chapter stories completed: 136 total stories completed

2010Edit

0 TOTAL STORIES
  • 0 one-shots
  • 0 multi-chapter stories

2011Edit

10 TOTAL STORIES

2012Edit

5 TOTAL STORIES

2013Edit

13 TOTAL STORIES

2014Edit

15 TOTAL STORIES

2015Edit

16 TOTAL STORIES

2016Edit

24 TOTAL STORIES

2017Edit

26 TOTAL STORIES

2018Edit

15 TOTAL STORIES

2019Edit

5 TOTAL STORIES

2020 (in progress)Edit

7 TOTAL STORIES

Story LengthsEdit

Story Word count
Total
1,172,232
1. Dragon Ball Z: The Forgotten (with contributions from Destructivedisk) 166,856
2. His Majesty's Pet 96,763
3. Chasing Oblivion 80,903
4. Nineteen Assassins 79,387
5. Spindlerun: The Tale of Yajirobe 52,213
6. Dragon Ball: The Great War (with contributions from Hyper Zergling) 42,217
7. Across the Universe (with contributions from TeamUnitedNerds) 37,519
8. A Quest for Booty (with contributions from Creeperman129) 33,353
9. Dragon Ball: Cold Vengeance (with contributions from Hyper Zergling) 27,685
10. Nowhere to Go 21,206
11. Ain't No Hero (with contributions from Destructivedisk) 20,198
12. The Perfect Lifeform 17,728
13. From Magic to Monsters 17,547
14. Sink to the Bottom (with contributions from Destructivedisk) 14,070
15. Dragon Ball Z: In Requiem 13,136
16. No Way Out (with contributions from WaffleMinifigure, Destructivedisk, Nobody700, and Kameron esters-) 11,625
17. The Big Book of Very Important Things (with contributions from Destructivedisk) 9835
18. One Chop Man 9395
19. Bitterly Bothered Brother 9146
20. Thank the Eastern Supreme Kai for Girls (with contributions from Destructivedisk) 8761
21. The Ginyu Force Chronicles (with contributions from Creeperman129) 8421
22. Black Dawn 8154
23. Girl 8085
24. Sovereign 7990
25. Appetent Justice 7951
26. Country Matters 7851
27. Be a Man 7323
28. Prideful Demons Black 6947
29. Leap 6899
30. The Space Taco Bandit 6798
31. The Monster and the Maiden 6743
32. Bi Arm or the One Where Baby is Actually A Rich Man or the Last One Of All the BYARMS (with contributions from TeamUnitedNerds) 6610
33. Yaki the Yardrat's lecherous crime cartel, can Jaco and Strabbary stop it? (with contributions from Scorpionic) 6553
34. Sandboys 6501
35. Mushin 6069
36. Before Creation Comes Destruction 6071
37. A Demon Tale: Running Gags and Memes: The Movie (with contributions from Creeperman129) 5894
38. Cool Runnings (KV sections) 5826
39. Really Big Scary Monsters 5801
40. Cool Cat 5770
41. Twelve Majestic Lies 5761
42. Starfall 5720
43. The Deathless Scraps 5719
44. He Needs Some Space Milk 5473
45. Extragalactic Containment Protocol 5467
46. Down the Well-Worn Road 5400
47. Broccoli Tail (with contributions from Creeperman129) 5281
48. A Flap of the Wings 5203
49. Black as Blood 5166
50. Old Nishi 5159
51. The Great Sushi-Eating Contest 5129
52. Mountain Bird 4996
53. Crushing Blue 4910
54. Not So Far 4904
55. Yellow 4832
56. The Adventures of Beerus and Whis...IN SPACE! (with contributions from Creeperman129) 4681
57. A Space Christmas Story 4585
58. To Kill a God-Emperor 4562
59. The One Where Bulma Goes Looking For Goku's Dragon Balls 4518
60. Doctor Piggyboy 4506
61. Memories of a Bloodless Thrall 4458
62. The Mortal Flaw 4327
63. Dragon Ball: Future Imperfect (with contributions from Lau Nighting, Paradise Paradox, Destructivedisk, and Kameron esters-) 4290
64. The Guacamole Boys Hit the Town (with contributions from Creeperman129) 4233
65. Zarbon and Dodoria: A Love Story (with contributions from Destructivedisk) 4020
66. I'm a Candy Man 4004
67. Ground Up 3991
68. Lights of Zalama 3986
69. Dragonball lies in the old hat (with contributions from Destructivedisk) 3884
70. Destroyer of Universes (with contributions from Hyper Zergling) 3879
71. KidVegeta's Theogony: From Silence to the Greater Kais 3854
72. A Shadow on the Wind 3848
73. The Scouring of Paradise 3760
74. The Royal Exception 3745
75. Midnight City 3671
76. Sleep 3550
77. The Naptime Championships 3427
78. Filthy Monkeys 3389
79. The Story Without Any Cursing Except For This One Fuck And It's In The Title or (Sex Drugs and Rock and Roll Except Without Any Of The Sex) (with contributions from TeamUnitedNerds) 3290
80. So Lonely At The Top 3197
81. Bardock's Some Hot Space Garbage and You're a Cuck (with contributions from TeamUnitedNerds) 3175
82. Trickster is Meaningless 3135
83. The One with Several No Good Rotten Space Vermin 3078
84. Dyspo Sucks 3014
85. Burning Man 2846
86. Bluestreaker 2688
87. The Ballad of Dango (with contributions from Destructivedisk) 2677
88. Monster 2631
89. What Role Will You Play? (KV sections) 2629
90. He's a Baaad Man 2485
91. Serial 2441
92. Brave 2429
93. Slick 2428
94. Ice Age Coming 2416
95. A Soundless Dark 2270
96. Time-Eater 2268
97. Strength 2187
98. Superior 2174
99. We'll Never Feel Bad Anymore 2130
100. Scelerat 2129
101. Untouchable 2118
102. Bonetown Blues 2086
103. Were It So Easy 2007
104. Derelict 2004
105. Bean Daddy 1924
106. Fin (with contributions from Destructivedisk) 1857
107. The Big Ugly 1834
108. Dragonball KC 1828
109. Glory 1805
110. One Word From The Crane 1799
111. Suicide Missionary 1773
112. Tyrant 1727
113. Separator 1662
114. Zeta Male 1610
115. Spaceball (with contributions from TeamUnitedNerds) 1579
116. Speedball 1513
117. The Legend of Upa 1500
118. Ergo Sum 1450
119. The Anonymous Series (KV chapters) 1427
120. Lionheart 1424
121. Small 1368
122. Soup 1367
123. Welcome to Rapture 1347
124. Sixth 1328
125. Vacation (KV sections) 1310
126. Second-best 1236
127. Scourge 1194
128. This is a contest story 1155
129. A Mother's Love 962
130. Skulk 833
131. Slaved 688
132. Shame 678
133. Womanhood 302
134. Ode to Dodoria 291
135. The Watcher 145


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The KidVegeta Anthology
1: Were It So Easy2: Ground Up3: So Lonely At The Top4: Dragon Ball Z: In Requiem5: Sixth6: Slaved7: Womanhood8: A Mother's Love9: Derelict10: Dragonball KC11: The Redacted Scenes12: Dragon Ball Z: Cold Vengeance (Original draftFinal draft)13: Spindlerun: The Tale of Yajirobe14: The Anonymous Series15: Speedball16: Second-best17: Strength18: Separator19: Skulk20: Soup21: Scelerat22: Serial23: Slick24: Sovereign25: Dragonball lies in the old hat26: Ode to Dodoria27: Bitterly Bothered Brother28: KidVegeta's Theogony: From Silence to the Greater Kais‎‎29: Dragon Ball Z: The Forgotten (29.1 Prince Vegeta Saga29.2 Outbreak: Paved In Blood29.3 Lauto Saga29.4 Stomping Grounds Saga29.5 Planet Earth Saga29.6 Reunion Saga29.7 Forever Alone29.8 Fulfillment Saga29.9 Characters29.10 Who Are The Forgotten?29.11 Miscellaneous Information)30: Sink to the Bottom31: Bluestreaker32: Lionheart33: From Magic to Monsters34: Tyrant35: Be a Man36: Brave37: Yellow38: Sleep39: Prideful Demons Black40: The Watcher41: The Perfect Lifeform42: Ain't No Hero43: Dragon Ball: The Great War44: Glory45: Monster46: Burning Man47: Bonetown Blues48: Ergo Sum49: Suicide Missionary50: We'll Never Feel Bad Anymore51: Before Creation Comes Destruction52: Midnight City53: A Soundless Dark54: Scourge55: The Ballad of Dango56: Zarbon and Dodoria: A Love Story57: Thank the Eastern Supreme Kai for Girls58: A Shadow on the Wind59: I'm a Candy Man60: Down the Well-Worn Road61: Cool Cat62: Starfall63: Crushing Blue64: Black Dawn65: The Great Sushi-Eating Contest66: The Adventures of Beerus and Whis...IN SPACE!‎‎67: The Guacamole Boys Hit the Town‎‎68: Fin69: Nowhere to Go70: Not So Far71: Ice Age Coming72: Small73: Shame74: Untouchable75: A Demon Tale: Running Gags and Memes: The Movie76: Superior77: He's a Baaad Man78: Sandboys79: This is a contest story 80: A Space Christmas Story81: The One Where Bulma Goes Looking For Goku's Dragon Balls82: The Ginyu Force Chronicles83: Country Matters84: Chasing Oblivion85: Bardock's Some Hot Space Garbage and You're a Cuck86: The Story Without Any Cursing Except For This One Fuck And It's In The Title or (Sex Drugs and Rock and Roll Except Without Any Of The Sex)87: A Flap of the Wings88: Broccoli Tail89: Black as Blood90: Bi Arm or the One Where Baby is Actually A Rich Man or the Last One Of All the BYARMS91: One Chop Man92: Girl93: Twelve Majestic Lies94: Spaceball95: The Monster and the Maiden96: Mountain Bird97: A Quest for Booty98: Yaki the Yardrat's lecherous crime cartel, can Jaco and Strabbary stop it?99: Across the Universe100: His Majesty's Pet101: Destroyer of Universes102: The One with Several No Good Rotten Space Vermin103: The Scouring of Paradise104: To Kill a God-Emperor105: Extragalactic Containment Protocol106: Appetent Justice107: The Naptime Championships108: Really Big Scary Monsters109: Old Nishi110: He Needs Some Space Milk111: Filthy Monkeys112: The Mortal Flaw113: Leap114: Dyspo Sucks115: The Royal Exception116: Mushin117: Doctor Piggyboy118: The Space Taco Bandit119: The Big Book of Very Important Things (119.1: Why the supreme kai thinks there are only 28 planets in the universe by kidvegeta, esquire119.2: The raisin why supreme kai thinks theres only 28 planets119.3: Supreme kai why do you think there are only 28 planets pls respond119.4: Vegeta: The Tale of Chiaotzu119:5. Sweet Nothings About Cuber by KidVegeta and Destructivedisk119.6: ☉‿⊙119.7: The Part Where He Actually Blows Himself119.8: The truefacts tht hhyperzerling ssahhy119.9: Dragon Ball Supper119.10: A list of people yamcha's been intimate with)120: Memories of a Bloodless Thrall121: Lights of Zalama122: The Deathless Scraps123: Time-Eater124: Dragon Ball: The Mrovian Series: Hidden Memories of Chaiva125: Nineteen Assassins126: Welcome to Rapture127: Bean Daddy128: Zeta Male129: One Word From The Crane130: The Big Ugly131: The Legend of Upa132: Trickster is Meaningless133: Captain of the Guard134: Killing General Copper135: One of Them136: The Swindler137: Softpetal138: Insatiable139: How To Act Like a Professional Mercenary140: The History of the Decline and Fall of the Planet Trade Organization141: Dragon Ball: Heart of the Dragon142: The Last Saiyan (141.1 Skyscrapers/Cloudchasers142.2 Roshi142.3 Edge Of The World142.4 Hail to the Thief142.5 Long Road Home)143: Community Roleplays (143.1 Dragon Ball: Future Imperfect (2nd Saga)143.2 No Way Out143.3 Vacation143.4 Cool Runnings143.5 What Role Will You Play?)144: Deleted Stories (144.1 Dragon Ball: Short Story Project)145: Final Thoughts
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