Talk:Universal Tier List/@comment-30381811-20170808063027/@comment-396366-20170808234116

Dodging swings from untransformed Hirudegarn warrants placement on the list. Where we place him was based on conservative speculation. Kibito Kai is also speculative and is placed on the list to give KidVegeta a sense of scale, because Kibito Kai shows up in one of his stories.